Once
you have a good profile together the next step is finding women (or men) that
interest you. My only advice is to not go off looks alone. I use pictures as a
preliminary screen. If I’m not attracted to a girl I don’t even begin to read
their profile. Who’s kidding who, looks matter. However, looks should only get
a person in the door. After narrowing the pool of applicants to aesthetically
datable people, decisions should be based on internal merits. This is true in
all forms of dating not just online dating.
The next step is
effectively messaging people. Again, I used to suck at this and have since
gotten pretty good at it. Here are the key things I’ve learned: First, you’re
messaging should be goal oriented towards setting up a date. I’m not on these
sites for the purpose of finding pen pals. If you particularly enjoy typing
back and forth then by all means however if your purpose is setting up dates
then you should stay on task. As such you should be driving towards asking
someone out and do it early on. To that end, my general goal is to get off the
computer and phone as quickly as possible and get into the real world. People
and their stories all blend in with each other when typing back and forth. I
actually got to the point where I keep notes on people. That’s neither romantic
nor fun. I enjoy meeting and getting to know people. Dates are generally fun
even if a girl isn’t right for me. I don’t enjoy typing back and forth. It
feels like work. Finally, I learn more about a person and whether I’m
interested in them in the first five minutes of meeting them in person than I
do with all the time spent online.
Along these same
lines, I find it much more effective when I can catch a girl online and we can
instant message rather than e-mailing back and forth. You can cover a lot more
ground and can be a lot more playful with someone responding right away rather
than the time delays of e-mail. I’ll generally try to instant message back and
forth for 10-20 minutes and then ask the girl out. I see no reason to introduce
an intermediary step between instant messaging and a date.
When
messaging a girl for the first time, I used to write these elaborate letters
after carefully considering a girl’s profile. That was a mistake. Girls have
claimed that guys should write high-quality initial messages because after all,
the only thing they have to judge you on is your profile and your message. This
seems logical enough. However, if you define “high quality” by what is most
likely to get a girl to respond to you then you’ll write a different kind of
message. I got a very bad response rate with my elaborate, thoughtful messages.
The messages I send now with a high success rate are very simple. They follow
this general format:
Subject: You seem like fun
You sound like a cool person. I also really
like X. It’s interesting that you do Y.
what made you chose to get into that?
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This does a few things.
1)
It shows you that you took the
time to read their profile rather than messaging people generically on mass.
Also, maybe you choose to show that you have at least one thing in common.
2)
It asks a question so the
person has something to write you about rather than putting the burden of
generating conversation on them.
3)
It expresses interest but not
too much interest. Unfortunately humans are repelled by people who want them
too much. A short message with a minor compliment expresses interest while not
seeming overly interested. If you seemingly put in too much effort and time, sadly
girls seem to subconsciously think you have fewer options and therefore have
less going for you.
4)
It pays the girl a minor
compliment. This should subconsciously bias a girl to want to see you favorably
in order to validate the compliment. If she see’s you as worthwhile then she
can feel better about herself because you thought she was cool.
It is important
that it’s only a minor complement. If you offer a strong compliment it
undermines the credibility of both the compliment and you. You don’t know the
girl beyond reading a paragraph about her so you’re not in a position to pass
meaningful positive judgment.
I think the same
type of message should be effective when girls message guys. Also, if you’re a
girl messaging a guy you can take it a step further and be more direct. You can
simply write “I liked your profile. You seem like a fun, down to earth guy. I’d
love to grab a drink and get to know you.” If a guy likes your profile he’ll go
out with you and appreciate your directness. Again, it will skip a lot of
tedious messaging back and forth and when you meet in person, you’ll know
pretty quickly if you like each other or not.
When initially
conversing with someone through any medium, it’s best to not focus too much on
what either of you do for a living. This doesn’t apply if what you do is wildly
interesting and defining of who you are but for most people it’s good advice.
Everyone naturally gravitates to the topic of occupation but it generally makes
for far less interesting or inspiring conversation. You generally want a girl
to be able to check off that you’re professionally successful and have
direction in your life but then move on. It’s much better to focus on whatever
it is that makes you interesting. For me, I’ve traveled to a lot of cool places,
and compete in jiu-jitsu, and in my spare time I’m writing a book. I’ve also managed
software companies which is impressive on some level but just makes for more
boring conversation. In general I’ll once again say, telling is not selling.
Don’t merely provide a girl with the facts about you. Focus on whatever you’re
passionate about and can speak charismatically about. You’ve got to be excited
about your story before you can get someone else excited about it.
Better still, it’s preferable if much of the conversation can be discussing ideas rather than either person’s background. This makes the experience more like two friends chatting and less like a job interview. You get to know each other by the way each person thinks, and communicates. You can get a feel for each other’s sense of humor. It’s difficult to take the focus away from each other’s backgrounds when you are initially getting to know each other but I find it’s both more enjoyable and more effective when you can steer the conversation that direction.
One challenge with online dating is that
once you get good at it, you have too much choice. Of course this is much
better than the alternative of not being able to find a date but the problem is
that it’s easy to not give people a proper chance. I believe both guys and
girls are too quick to write each other off because there are plenty of other
options waiting for them. Similarly, I find with online dating, first dates are
often spent evaluating each other rather than trying to make it work. Before
online dating, I had fewer options available to me so I tried harder to make
each date a success. My suggestion is to just be mindful of the problem and
make a point to give people a proper chance. You can also be conscious to not
compromise focus on creating and having a good time by worrying too much about
evaluating the other person.
Setting
up dates online requires some skill much like setting up dates in the real
world. Also, you need to have a thick skin and handle some rejection. However,
again much like dating in the real world you get better at it with practice. Related
to this point if what you’re doing isn’t working then start experimenting. If
you keep doing the same thing then you should expect the same results. I once
really sucked at online dating and I’m now pretty solid at it. I just needed to
change my approach. I wish you the best of luck and remember dating should be
fun.
Check out my post leading into this one about how to create a good online dating profile.
Or if you're considering dating me and reading this blog has made you nervous.
Or if you're considering dating me and reading this blog has made you nervous.
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